This is from (2024) fyi

Still not cheap... even in 2024 GPUs were very inflated. The GTX 970 was around 350 at launch in 2014, and in 2024 was 650-ish.

Does https://usedots.com/ fit your purpose?

How does it compare to Wise/Payoneer and other existing payment transfer systems?

Its on top and provides multieple different options and required reporting as well. Basically for any payout usecase it should be way better.

How do you compare to https://usedots.com/?

Zoneless is open-source, self-hostable and has no transaction fees

the receipient has fees right? on/offramping

Beuatiful website! I sent you an email!

thank you!

I love your product and looks very slick!

Can I play devil's advocate though?

Don't you think in 1-2 years most banks (NA + EU) will offer 1:1 stablecoin conversions and make this no longer a problem?

For those who can’t use Revolut: WealthSimple in Canada and Chase in the US offer custodial cryptocurrency accounts.

Revolut does not have a banking license in the US. At the moment they are a front for another bank. Don't be gullible and believe blindly what the marketing departments tell you.

> Revolut does not have a banking license in the US.

The US is not the entire world.

Revolut has major banking licenses in Europe, UK and Mexico. That doesn't mean it is not bank.

Wells Fargo does not operate in the UK, but it is still a major bank in the US and it is still a bank.

Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) is a bank in the UK. Just because it doesn't operate in the US, does not mean it isn't a bank.

> Don't be gullible and believe blindly what the marketing departments tell you.

Revolut is still a major bank even if they don't operate in the US (yet).

It works in Europe, which is one of the few advantages we have over the US.

No it doesn't. You can gamble with it, but it doesn't let you own or send it.

> No it doesn't.

Yes it does.

> You can gamble with it, but it doesn't let you own or send it.

You can deposit (receive) and withdraw (send) cryptocurrencies there.

"Owning" is a matter at the private key level which of course you use a self-hosted wallet for "true" ownership. But no argument was made on ownership.

My point still stands that Revolut is a bank that allows cryptocurrencies.

It doesn't let me, it says says sending crypto is temporarily blocked. Maybe they just blocked me.

Highly country specific

stablecoins arent crypto in EU anymore, its e-money. No tax on converting to euros.

IIRC all cryptocurrency that's money is money (so bitcoin, ethereum, etc but not necessarily project-specific tokens) and if you happen to make or lose money on a currency conversion it doesn't have tax implications.

nope. not the case at all.

first step is to turn them into real crypo like ETH (so its unfreezable)

then probably mix them via different methods

then sell them via OTC-style swap platforms like fixedfloat / changelly etc

Yeah but aren’t those KYC-based platforms? I mean eventually he can get tracked down… no?

you can receive. you just need to set it up.

there are like 50 (many YC) startups fixing this today trying to offer your the best and cheapest service