Even with an API spec it wouldn't "just work". You'd still need to handle authentication and have a place to manage which APIs you want the in-app agent to have access to / when to call a given tool.
And believe it or not, even big companies with big eng teams don't have API specs available for their applications ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah the auth angle and unobtrusive integration path seems like the real neat thing here. From your customers eyes its just another user account right?
Is that a requirement to integrate it? your app has to essentially have "teams" or at least shared resources?
Yup just another user account. It can work without this as well (we support ingesting other resources such as help center articles, pdfs, etc.) but at that point it's no different from any other (dumb) AI chatbot out there that just spits out a bunch of itemized bullets.
Deepseek will be sanctioned and therefore no provider will offer it anymore. Only way to use it then will be private but even that will be forbidden if it gets classified as threat to national security.
>>Deepseek will be sanctioned and therefore no provider will offer it anymore.
That is possible inside the US. How do you do it all over the world? You have to convince every country in the world not use frontier models? Even worse how do you convince all the countries to not build their own models?
You are correct that it’s inside the US and it doesn’t apply to the whole world. But it will apply to the western world and much further which trades in dollar because else secondary sanctions apply. The shocking number is roughly 175-180 countries of 193 follow along US sanctions, that’s 90%.
Unlike in the US the citizens of those countries will not be prosecuted for circumventing the sanctions but assets like bank accounts and wallets may be seized and Visa issues may arise.
With the already ongoing legislation against foreign AI players and the recent national security threat assessment it strongly looks like just a matter of time until they implement the mechanics to sanction any disfavored AI. This will flush most users back to US companies.
With the limited self hosting options and insanely strong export limits for datacenters it’s already established that countries can’t build their own models with the same power.
It’s in the doing with the DAAMT Act and soon foreign AI companies will be on the entity list. Circumvent this sanctions and count with assets forfeiture, civil penalty and criminal prosecution. This will eliminate access to Deepseek and so on overnight. Cherry on top most westerners will face similar problems due to secondary sanctions.
And then USA will have a disadvantage compared to rest of the world with cheaper LLMs and american AI companies will have tougher time surviving on domestic spend alone.
DeepSeek first and foremost is a business. Yes, being a business in China means risk of being ordered tomorrow to do something that is not in your best interests. But now we know the US is not immune to that level of government oversight either.
The difference is DeepSeek and other Chinese models are open weights.
As an European, today I certainly classify USA as a "hostile superpower" because the actions from the last few years of both the US government and of certain big US companies have stolen a lot of money directly from my own pocket, by artificially limiting competition in several important markets, like smartphones, SSDs and memory modules, thus greatly raising the prices in comparison with what they would have been in normal market conditions (i.e. if the US government had behaved after the same rules that they had forced upon the other countries for decades, by various methods of propaganda, bribing and blackmailing).
I'm in Europe. The only superpower that's been hostile to me, very directly - was US, when they asked a company I was relying on to limit model access based on nationality.
USA is hostile to the entire world, because the US actions already for several years, but especially during the last year, have caused global price rises in more and more product categories, starting with smartphones, then with SSDs, then with DRAM and HDDs, and eventually with almost everything that is affected by energy costs.
This is not some hypothetical hostility, but billions of humans from all over the world have been losing more and more money in recent years and in recent months, from their own pockets, much of which eventually reaches US companies, like Qualcomm and Micron (or South-Korean companies, who have also benefited from the US policies).
Of course, China is not trustworthy, but until now, unless you are a neighbor like Taiwan, their hostility is only hypothetical and in the future, not real and in the present, like for USA.
China regularly conducts military, even live fire, exercises in the waters the South China Sea and surrounding waters, fishes and uses these water illegally, it helps Russia with its war against Ukraine, has provided assistance to Iran and continues to do so, has set up illegal policing units inside of other countries, conducts regular espionage, influence campaigns, propaganda, and infiltrates the political structures of other countries, and more. Unlike much (though not all) of what you blame the US for, these are all direct decisions by the state China rather than developments in its respective market by private actors.
China's hostility is not hypothetical. The US's hostility is not universal. I think my point about ignorance or propaganda is proven by your statement.
You could probably do with couple of instances. People rarely use ai 24/7, so right now you can oversubscribe and still have acceptable latency and high utilization rate.
Pretty doubtful about computer use/screenshotting based approaches.
With Retriever AI, we construct custom accessibility trees to represent web pages and just switched over to using DeepSeek v4 Flash and its nearing 100x cost decrease.
We also had great success just reverse engineering the underlying APIs of websites and then writing code to hit them. This approach of using screenshots to take actions on a webpage to trigger the underlying network calls the website is making seems too naive.
I can't tell if you're saying that you think every native app in the world can be vibe-replaced with a web app (they can't) or if you're saying it will be easy to vibe-code a reverse-engineered replacement for every native app (you can't)
Fable has been gone almost a week. A god-tier coding model got banned with vague “national security” handwaving.
Trump administration friends get free passes on environmental laws, but anyone not pushing their narrative is getting curbstomped till they change their tune.
Come speak up against this regulatory retaliation and voice your support for Anthropic's Fable release.
We are meeting at a public plaza in front of their office to show support and discuss AI policy with free chai!
What do you think of just reverse engineering the network requests and writing scripts to hit the underlying APIs that the browser is making instead of tackling at the browser automation layer?
Hi Arjun, our customers use Intuned for a wide range of use cases, the main ones being: govtech and insurance tech. In addition, agencies that specialize in scraping for their customers.
Our Intuned agent and Web Task API always use reverse engineering when possible — the underlying agents have access to the network layer and can reverse engineer APIs when needed. At the end of the day, this comes down to what the user needs. We have seen cases where users need data from the network, and in these cases we skip the browser layer. In some other cases, we saw that users need to authenticate via the browser but then all the automation can be done via the network. We have also seen customers who want to get markdown of the pages in addition to hitting the APIs so a browser layer is a must.
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