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Everything on the internet is free. Everyone expects everything on the internet to be free. Therefore, everything is run on ads.

That is true but even some paid services (like Disney Plus and Amazon Prime) have ads now

Lots of people don't mind paying when they have money to burn. The problem is that so many people don't.

Doesn't really work in practice, even among those who can afford it.

PERSON 1 Have you heard of Kagi? It’s like Google, but better, and... oh... you have to pay for it.

PERSON 2 Why would I pay for something when I can use Google for free? I use Adblock anyway.


I actually did pay for Kagi, but the results weren't nearly as good. I absolutely would pay if they were though.

Not true, this very site has no ads.

https://news.ycombinator.com/jobs

It's a talent acquisition ploy.


HN is an ad!

Uh, yes it does? HN has tons of "[some YC startup] is hiring a [something]". Not sure if they're paid though.

I think that is what they are actually looking for. Imagine: You have capital, you invest in a business that is run entirely by computers. You want to scale? Just provision more agents / cores. It's completely autonomous. It's a money printing machine that extracts revenue from customers, with no work required by the owner.

Frankly, the finance world has already achieved this -- they just lend money to make money, with no work involved. Regular businesses are jealous so now they feel they can use computers to do the same thing but in non-finance areas.


Your lack of creativity is not a reason to believe that a super AI is harmless or less destructive than a nuclear weapon. Damage need not be limited to destruction. Introducing doubt is sufficient. Right now you have faith that digital Financial transactions can be trusted. You have faith that computer encryption can be trusted. You have faith that digital certificates will protect you. If an AI can introduce doubt into any one of those systems, that will be sufficient to bring about the destruction of those systems. Imagine a world in which you can no longer use a credit card or Apple pay. Where no digital cash transaction can be trusted or validated. What effects do you think that would have on commerce? How quickly do you think we can return to some trustable means of commerce? Do you think it will happen before your groceries run out in your apartment? Before your grocery store can settle its debts? Before your Amazon ec2 instance runs out of credits?

> Where no digital cash transaction can be trusted or validated

lol i have bad new for you.

in anycase any attack to the finanical system would be resolved super fast and the ai would be cut off if that happen. this will literally never happen for that reason


What happens when a husband decides to risk the mortgage payment on a sports bet and loses? Now the wife and kids are evicted.

Or maybe he lives alone and is now homeless. But now we have a man living out of his car, or worse, homeless and begging on the corner.

The problem with allowing people to do whatever they want is that risks are often socialized.


> or worse, homeless and begging on the corner.

Nah, worse is they get some of your hard-earned money. Or a part of it.

Do you account for every penny your taxes go to?

Why should I pay for someone else's bus route?


How does this happen with an online app? I understand how it happens when you place a bet with the local bookie.


Voters can be held accountable; he demonstrated exactly what he was the first time in office and then people voted for him again.


My suspicion is that HF specifically didn't pursue charges to set the precedent that use of AI absolves accountability.

A computer under control of an AI cannot be held liable. The lack of a law suit also leaves no ground for regulation.

The current admiration also wants these tools - warts and all - so nothing can be allowed to stall the progress of these war machines.


I still remember when Interstate exits in the US were numbered sequentially. It seems like only 20 years ago they switched to mile markers for exit numbers.


Many still have "old exit XX" alongside the current exit number.


Start up a seti at home style of open source LLM training! Assuming there is an ability to merge the sub models trained on each user's home PC into a larger model...


That's not something that is known how to do in a reliable fashion, right? It sounds quite like the problem where transformers are unable to be updated/taught over time.


I can't wait for The Truman Show to be real. This is the best future possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43fqtIPGo2A


Having to manually register new domains was something that was really holding back my ability to commit fraud. Now that large language models and agents can do this for me, that will really speed up my ability to defraud the innocent and elderly.


Reminds me of an article from The Onion from this morning: https://theonion.com/taking-advantage-of-other-people-was-th...


A truly wonderful read


Have you talked to Andreesen Horowitz yet? That elevator pitch alone should get you a few million.


Curious, is there an Andreesen Horowitz Agent MCP?

Let’s automate this end to end, from idea to raising capitals. Vibe Angels should just be multi agents managing how much capitals to allocate to each projects.


You joke, but like the meme goes: go knocking on enough doors asking to see the devil, and eventually he might answer.


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