Hi, I am an ex HP and surely can confirm HP has lost its battle in winning the hearts and minds of its employees. 2008 recession, Mark Hurd took $52 million and later after 2 months declared 25% loss and eventually leading to firing spree, which in US also lead to one HP employee commiting suicide.. I bet this is not what Bill and Dave envisioned for HP. Employees hates the phony speech he gives to build up employee morale but reality is everyone hates him. No one knows why Mark is fired. Bad business deals or sexual harrassmenT. And given the mammoth size of HP, no one will know. Brand HP is somewhat a mirage, suferficial and very calous from inside. It's 21'st centuary, its all about packaging, no one cares whats inside anymore.. Every employee is saying one thing right now 'I dont care if Mark stays or goes'...