Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | kakoni's commentslogin

Google (or Tuike Finland as its known)

- paid 0e company tax in 2023/2024 (2025 hasn't been published yet)

- Doesn't generate any value added taxes as it only has one customer, Google Emea in Ireland

- Employs directly 120 persons


Hello fellow MSXian! I got started with Spectravideo SV-728 (and all those fantastic Konami games that it had)

My dad came home with a 2nd hand spectravideo sv-328 and it got me started as well. It had a book of basic programs that I could never really get working. A year or so later we got an Amiga 500 and I really learnt a lot about computers using that. I've been working a personal project that replaces the A500s 68k CPU with a FPGA.

According to the PPWR rules, if you (as a webshop) package your shipment in non-branded box and send it from another EU country to another, then you are considered to be manufacturer(=you were the first to bring this into market) and EPR/PPWR rules apply. There is no exemption for this.


I'm more inclined to believe the person who backed up their argument with a citation, especially after looking at the document they linked which expressly contradicts you.


Sorry, messed up the terms here. You became producer. From the earlier faq that parent posted;

> The following provide some typical examples of who the producer of transport packaging is: - If Company A fills the cardboard boxes and sells them to an end user in another Member State, then Company A would typically be the producer in that other Member State.


In the following

> If Company A manufactures cardboard boxes under the name or trademark of Company B, then Company B will typically become the manufacturer and producer of the boxes in that Member State. However, if Company B is a micro-enterprise, then Company A is manufacturer and the producer in the Member State.

That has the same "typically", so I'd assume it has the same micro-enterprise exemption. Otherwise only branded boxes would be exempt and that'd be pretty weird.


Perhaps one explanation is personal bankruptcy? At least in Scandinavia/Finland this is an unknown concept. You mess up your business (Ireland has EPR fines upto 500ke) and end up paying company loans for the rest of your life.


Do they not have LLCs?


Of course, but when getting bank loan(for the llc) to get started you have to give personal collateral.


I don't think any bank will give you such a huge personal loan that you could end up in debt for your whole life, since they typically want the loan repaid. The only way I can imagine that happening is if you're a sole proprietor and you get sued or fined. I can't think of another way to get exposed to that much liability.


100ke might be enough. Once the debt is in enforcement (ulosotto in Finnish), interest can keep accruing at roughly 10%. If your earnings are low, you can pay for years without reducing the principal at all.


What are you doing taking on that kind of risk and starting ventures if your earnings are low? I'm sorry, but if you're a delivery boy living from paycheck to paycheck, you should be trying to get an education, not start a business. That's true in Finland and in the US.


I don't think you understand Finland at all ;-) Even the delivery boy has a master's degree, that's not the issue.


Should get a second one, then, if that's the meta.


And then there is Temu (as a platform). They've done all the necessary EPR/PPWR agreements with various European countries/vendors. It handles all the fees and reporting for Chinese sellers.


Yup, soon they will offer to handle the compliance for EU sellers for no risk and low and behold the idiots have given away a tax on selling in the single market to another country before they know it.


Finland has been an EU net contributor since 2001. Now it has among the highest unemployment rates in the EU and is going through austerity, while Poland is visibly building and converging. I understand the logic of cohesion funds, but from Finland it increasingly feels like: we cut, Poland builds.


OpenAI o1 beats hundreds of physicians on clinical cases, including live ER patients


So are you running Kimi on Verda?


Finnish public sector is also heavy Azure user. Their common ethos is that modern cloud services(=azure) are in many respects more secure than on-premises data centers. In addition, they are cost-effective and reliable.


Finland did that + lot more. Tax system from Gentax, EHR from Epic and social benefits from Salesforce.


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: