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What's the goal of complaining about it though? What's more likely, you persuade people to stop all of these habits that use electricity that burns carbon, or you convert the electricity supply to renewables?

There's more to life than money past a certain point, I'd rather live in the Alps on a lower salary.

I imagine you could do so while working for an US AI Lab in Zurich for five times the net pay.

You dont even live in the Alps with 90K lmao. And if you expect top performance, you should expect top salary. Or at least something competitive. 90K for a company like Mistral is a bit embarrassing.

€90k is in the top 5% salaries in France. Of course you can live in the Alps, or anywhere else in France for that matter.

I literally do.

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> You dont even live in the Alps with 90K lmao.

this comment is insane...


To be fair, Switzerland is really expensive.

The alps are shared between Switzerland, Italy and France. You can live in the French alps a lot cheaper than in Switzerland

ok, but besides the fact 90k is absolutely fine for CH as well, and incredibly good for italy, france or austria.

Is it not due to the all the user data they are gathering?

Maybe by doing this people will worry about them doing what you're suggesting, while they still do it.


Doesn't multiple mean more than one?


arent they sticking to their own cards?


Plenty of people deliberately posting to HN have their servers overwhelmed.


Distraction


It's wierd because the barrier to not have that in is so low, you can just tack on 'talk like me not AI, dont use em dashes, don't use formulaic structures, be concice' and itll get rid of half of those signals.


This is how you get precious takes like this one:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45322362

> First impression: I need to dive into this hackernews reply mockup thing thoroughly without any fluff or self-promotion. My persona should be ..., energetic with health/tech insights but casual and relatable.

> Looking at the constraints: short, punchy between 50-80 characters total—probably multiple one-sentence paragraphs here to fit that brevity while keeping it engaging.

> User specified avoiding "Hey" or "absolutely."

Lots more in its other comments (you need [showdead] on).


I don't understand why someone would go through the effort to prompt that when the comments it suggested are total garbage, and it seems like would take similar effort to produce a low quality human written comment.


If I had to guess, it's probably an attempt to automate karma farming over time to make an account look legit later on.


Don't give these subnormals any ideas!


conspiracy: the people behind these bots intentionally run very obvious bots to distract everyone from the less-obvious bots

It's not just clever—it's devious!


I talk politely to LLMs because I talk politely.


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I am! But seriously, I've seen some conversations of how people talk to LLMs and it seems kinda insane how people choose to talk when there are no consequences. Is that how they always want to talk to people but know that they can't?


Why should there be consequences for typing anything as inputs into a big convolution matrix?


I don't think I implied that there should be. What I mean is, for me to talk/type considerably differently to an LLM would take more mental effort than just talking how I normally talk, whereas some people seem to put effort into being rude/mean to LLMs.

So either they are putting extra effort into talking worse to LLMs, or they are they are putting more effort into general conversations with humans (to not act like their default).


I do not “talk” to LLMs the same way I talk to a human.

I would never just cut and paste blocks of code, error messages, and then cryptic ways to ask for what I want at a human. But I do with an LLM since it gets me the best answer that way.

With humans I don’t manipulate them to do what I want.

With an LLM I do.


I don't mean that people say Hi, or goodbye, or niceties like that. I'm talking about people that say things like "just fucking do it" or "that's wrong you idiot try again'.


The truth is that most people will in fact power trip over other people when given a chance. Most people have no business ever being near any sort of leadership role because of this. What you're seeing with the way people power trip over other bots is almost certainly the way they'd treat people too, if they felt as certain of their power over those people.


Humans are not moral agents, and most of humanity would commit numerous atrocities in the right conditions. Unfortunately, history has shown that 'the right conditions' doesn't take a whole lot, so this really should come as no surprise.

It will also be interesting to see how long talking to LLMs will truly have 'no consequences'. An angry blog post isn't a big deal all things considered, but that is likely going to be the tip of the iceberg as these agents get more and more competent in the future.


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