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The distortions in maps with non orthogonal axes are evident already looking at Europe (though with centering at Greenwich). So, not just the "Map of America (of the Americas)" or "Map of Australia"... The compromises are just everywhere. Of course.

(Yes, I get what you meant. I am just suggesting other angles.)


Somebody who does not represent anybody "agreed" - not us.

Well, the underlying thinking "only people I directly voted for can do things" is wrong. I guess you never directly voted for your minister of economy, or? In many countries people don't directly vote for the prime minister, chancellor etc.

The key term some people never learned in school is "direct democracy" vs. "indirect democracy".

Even many clubs, e.g. in Germany the ADAC, have systems where people vote for an assembly (or, in politics: a parliament). And then the assembly vote fot ehri CO (or, in politics, for their chancellor). Now, it can happen that this chancellor together with 26 other head of states is a member of the Europen Council (EUCO, one of the 7 bodies of the EU, what btw most people all the time intermingle). And that this EUCO now votes on their president.

In your logic, this presidency of the EUCO is then null and void. Because not directly elected by citizens of the EU.

In my logic, I realize that this position is removed from the people, but it still done by a democratic process. A multi-stage process, but still democratic. And that it still has some bearing.

Asking for the whole world population having an election on e.g. the UN Secretary General --- under the implication that only this would give representation --- is bogus.


Oh no Mr. Schurig. I never praised "direct vote" (that would even worsen it).

I implied instead that there is a crisis in representation.

(...You could be German and you have not noticed, in spite of all the vocal effort in the North? That and all the other similar signals clearly affecting current history.)


I'm Canadian. Canada represents me. They voted on this. That's how the world works. Sometimes my government is not the one I voted for and my interests are not represented, or sometimes my interests are not the majority in my country. That's life.

No one is forcing you to use the new map, you can keep your old map. No one will arrest you for it. Enjoy!


By when is Canada going to be using the new map?

This question is nonsensical. Canada is not ONE identity. It's millions of people, hundred thousands of companies and organizations. Go and ask them individually.

Also, the UN voted to use this map for itself and suggested (!) that others should use it. It never said that everyone has to use that map. It actually said that this voting is "non-binding".


> Findings demonstrate how, when faced with this ambiguity, officers rely on and revert to the simplicity of the binary

The abstract (article is not public, and available divulgation is more shocking than the abstract) substantially says that "the officers in the study were found to dumb themselves down purpusefully because a dumb world model is cognitively more comfortable (nuances are costly)".

And all of that without a hint of proportional reaction to the idea.

Another instance of the "failure of the HR".


You are reminding to this very community the notion of cybernetics.

> South America is an actual real geographical designator in common usage

Hence naming something that is absurd. That is the joke. The renaming is preposterous - that is the message.

Edit: and maaany other "short-circuits" around that idea are suggested.


> Inspired by the bravery and patriotism of Apple and Google

It's "shareholder-linked" (probably not "driven"), but yes, upvoted. Nonetheless, even when with grave faults in the path, Google has managed to give us marvellous, paramount free resources (Google Street, Google Museum...), and would have given more (Google Books - if the negotiation had succeeded). I am grateful.

Google Streetview/maps isn't even the best mapping/'streetview' tool at this point. Filled with ads and bugs, some major bugs have been there for 10+ years.

Now I'm curious. What is the better mapping and streetview tool at this point?

For maps there's quite a few, just anything that doesn't have the amount of ads beats it. For Streetview apple lookaround is a better experience if it's mapped well in your area.

I believe Google has been trying to improve their Streetview in coverage as apple has become a concurrent, but it still has the same bugs people have been complaining about for years (like going backward when pressing forward type of bad). If I remember correctly the bugs have been 'closed' or something before just to include it in the same slightly different way.


As someone that just started working on Google Street View, do you links to any of those bugs? Curious to take a look and see what those problems are

Organic Maps for maps

Why would you be grateful? I don't think any of that should be under private control to begin with.

And which public enterprise has undertaken those projects?

Looking at current hot problems, and exemplary of the situation: which public entities have endeavoured to backup the most important channels and videos from YouTube, the current historic video archive?

Why would I be grateful?! Because somebody did create those resources and made them available! And they did to common good (if anybody refused the expression "for" common good).


They said should be under public control, not is under public control.

Double check.

I hope everybody knows Tim Follin - or will now come to know his genius.

> Agent X ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T42WuUpBuHE ) or Agent X II ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNc_xczyGLc ) or Chronos ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-D24A_N4d4 ) or Raw Recruit ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8dAVybwq8 ) or Future Games ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orEXKOBIv_8 )... // A modern attempt, the ON and OFF album by Rich 'Tufty' Hollins ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nEfO4Yu7Mg )

(Repost originally for submission Furnace - the biggest multi-system chiptune tracker ever made https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41609254)


It's just Pictionary Tim! He got even crazier when they gave him more than a single system beeper.

Silver Surfer (https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=silver+su...) Pictionary (https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=pictionar...)


Wow, that Chronos track is like early My Bloody Valentine!

> Anyway this topic shouldn't even be on HN

Oh, it should. Where should we discuss it? Because we really should discuss it.


> would send their soldiers to die

transforming a cold war into an full war.


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