But that's the challenge: a true belief in the principles of law must include defending "bad guys" when they are targeted with illegal or immoral means. Miranda was a bad guy; going all the way back, Cain was a bad guy. Presumption of innocence and right to a fair trial should apply to everyone, including people we don't like.
The purpose of the law is to apply shared societal values to individuals as impartially as possible. Bad people should be "hurt" only as much as it's necessary for society to peacefully uphold those values.
Imagining the law as punishment (or worse, vengeance) is what people did thousands of years ago, and it never ended well. An eye for an eye etc etc.
> by saying things like terrorism is in the eye of the beholder
This is so trivially true that it's not worth bringing up in discussoon with anyone who can be taken seriously. It's true for any politically charged word, and terrorism is one of the most political words in the English language.
First if all, doing bad things should not be a reason for debanking.
Secondly, the truckers opposed forced vaccination despite the fact that they were solitary in their cabins while keeping the economy afloat so that bureaucrats like Trudeau could eat.
Thirdly, I find it worrisome that the GP is downvoted and an indication that autistici.org is a radical org that does not tolerate the slightest dissent. So I guess I have to live with the fact that we either have left wing or right wing nonsense and that autistici.org would also ban anyone if they had power.
> For instance, iirc, shipping the phone primarily with a non-Google alternative ROM means you won't get any play services on them, even if you want to have a secondary version with a standard Google ROM.
Is this wrong? Sure they have agreements but does it include "don't sell phones with alternative ROMs"? It's licensed software and I don't think the phone makers want to end up on the wrong side of a Google lawsuit.
You could suck it up and do the phone number verification, it usually costs around $5 for a phone number.
Or you could go through the android phone sign-up process which doesn't require one. Buy a cheap android phone and keep resetting it and making a new account each time.
Or you could buy an account on the grey web from someone who already did this. Should be under $2.
If you are really into this you could become a phone company and own a whole block of phone numbers.
The whole point of avoiding the verification in my case is for privacy reasons... I don't want google or anyone else tracking what I do through the use of an account.
> Or you could go through the android phone sign-up process which doesn't require one
This is worse IMO because now the number is associated with that device forever. And unless I'm willing to risk my account to compromise from a future owner of the same number OR device, I must now keep both... forever.
> grey web
I don't want to give them my info either, nor have my account associated with sketchy individuals.
> you could become a phone company
I do own DID blocks but this is unhelpful because google's verification specifically requires SMS over real mobile numbers, and I'm not interested in becoming an MVNO or cellular carrier.
Bad news - Google doesn't need an account to track your app downloadsm
Perhaps you'd be more interested in creating a website that downloads all the apps from the play store using burner accounts and makes them easily anonymously accessible.
GrapheneOS is not sending app downloads to Google that happen outside of Google's apps, which I don't use. And there are other ways to download APKs from the Play Store; EFF even makes their own tool for it, and there are third-party archive sites and alternative non-Google app stores as well.
btw. you can get prepaid physical SIM cards in Czechia for free send by mailbox, you just need some available mailbox wheere you can pick it up, like put Donald Duck sticker on your mailbox and address it to Donald Duck
I used android sign up process to create my other dummy account I use in TV only for smarttube and app updates, that seems like great option if it still works
Market price for a Google account is about $1.50, you can also buy a burner SIM to set up the maximum number of accounts Google will let you with the same phone number.
You don't need a sim card to make accounts for a phone in the first place. Not sure how, but on android devices they let you make an account without giving them a phone number. Probably because even Google realizes how bad gating application installs on new phones on having a phone number would look.
The problem is that even if you have separate google accounts on each android device, Google can still track you by looking at your contacts.
But not for everyone for free. What it means is Epic, or anyone like Epic, will be able to write to Google, send a nominal amount of money, and get some API key and bare documentation which is only allowed to be used in Epic. It's a B2B commercial transaction under court-ordered terms, not an open API. Same as the Apple browser API. If you want, you can register a company "Kotakat App Store Inc" and get access to the same terms but you'll probably need to sue Google to make them give you access. Apple hasn't approved any browsers, either.
