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I wonder how much of this attack had precedents in text that had been previously published to the web, for example, in hacking contests. In particular, tricks for doing more than expected when you're only allowed to make GET requests. Finding material like that might have helped the agents discover the trick faster.

They chose BnB to suggest "bed and breakfast", a common term for a small hotel that was typically just an old house where the owners lived and would host, as we all know. So we know what the right result will be. But since it's a giant corporation versus a person with no resources, we may get the wrong result.

They seem to be mixing together things that are actually harmful to the public, with things that are merely harmful to their business model (which is their claim that they can grab whatever data that they want regardless of the wishes of the owners of the data and use it to improve their models, but competitors can't do that to them).


Universalising one’s personal experience and needs is a childish trait most people grow out of.

Ofcourse you’ll still see companies, governments, C-suites justifying their own personal needs with “we need X Y Z”.


It is the same on Android.


Even before LLMs were a thing, it wasn't this way: rapidly generating code was not the most valuable skill. As you say, it's much more important that the code can be confidently modified and extended, and reused, not just now, but then. In a mature product, the initial writing of the code will be the least of the work; maintenance is much more expensive. Ideally, design decisions should appear only once in the code when this can be achieved, because then there's one place to fix or one place to modify, instead of dependencies on some detail that appear all over the code. It's too easy with auto-generated code to wind up with redundancy and code duplication, resulting in a brittle mess.


I guess there's an exception for startups where you have to have something before you reach the end of the runway, and as you say, _mature code_.


Hopefully in this world, someone figures out how to deliver the performance equivalent of a B300 GPU for about 1/100th the power of a current B300 (which can be up to 1400 watts), or the world will bake.


Compared to 20-30kw spend on cruising the highway in a car (considerably higher for older ICEs) 1.4kw does not really seem to dent the energy consumption.

Especially if cognitive technologies mean that we need to travel less (eg communiting to work, or ineffecient supply chains).


What percentage of your time is spent cruising at highway speed? Presumably that one GPu would be saturated all the time.


2-3 hours at 20kW daily (assuming commute, etc) vs 20ish hours always on tasks really is close to equivalent

which is to say that the last thing our planet needs is another universalized technology that outputs as much total emissions as cars

in an ideal world, we'd keep LLMs/CNNs/etc specialized and academic until we are hitting diminishing returns on optimizing fundamental microprocessor tech like GAA. but the pursuit of market dominance and mass adoption is our current operating philosophy, and so we have things like this top graph: https://hai.stanford.edu/news/inside-the-ai-index-12-takeawa...

>Grok 4's estimated training emissions reached 72,816 tons of CO2 equivalent, or roughly the same amount of greenhouse gas emissions created from driving 17,000 cars for one year


8 biillion * 1400 watts = 11.2 terawatts

current global average electricity production = approximately 3.6 terawatts

But then again these systems do not use 1400 watts all the time. We would probably have much more then 11.2 terawatts demand if all humans turn on all their electrical consumers at the same time.


So demand quadruples if they are always on, and doubles if they are on 1/3 of the time. Either way, too much.


Most of the energy consumption comes from moving data between memory and compute units rather than the math itself. While HBM stacked on a silicon interposer was a signification efficiency improvement over traditional DDR, there's still room for improvement. The high energy costs will drive this further, e.g. near-memory/in-memory compute (PIM) or tighter 3D packaging and possibly optical interconnects. (And of course training/model optimisations)


Analog AI/approximate computing? There's research into it, worth looking at if you're interested.

The idea is you tolerate some loss/degradation (which neural networks do) but gain orders of magnitude power efficiency.


Right, if everyone in the world has a GPU we would have solved so many problems with power generation and... I'm not going to do the math but I think we'd be mining asteroids too? I'd probably use it as a bookend at the point.


I think personalized suriveillance and manipulation (thought control, manipulating people through filtering of content they receive) on a level any dictator would drool over can be gotten for a fraction of 1 GPU per person.


Specialized chips like what cereberus is building combined with small models can give great result in the long run, but at the pace AI is growing it's not very practical yet.


For traveling salesman that's more than good enough. But in many cases an O(n^3) algorithm can't be used because n is in the billions. I remember interviewing a candidate who asserted that register retiming in digital circuits was a non-problem, so they were surprised that we were still working on improvements, because they had learned that the Leiserson-Saxe algorithm gives an optimal solution in O(n^3) time. But because real circuits are so large that that approach can't be used. Polynomial time often isn't good enough; even quadratic time often isn't tolerable.


I spent my career in electronic design automation, where practically every interesting problem is NP-hard, but we have to solve them, or approximately solve them at least, and because real-life problems often have structure, with the right approach very large problems can be solved exactly despite the theoretical complexity, and when exact solutions can't be found a decent bound can often be found that is an acceptable solution.

Sales people still have to plan their trips even though finding the optimal solution is NP-hard (to give one example). No matter; there are decent heuristic methods.


It's been common in electronic design automation tools to have license terms like that (forbidding use to create a competing product). However, competing companies have often found workarounds, either by finding loopholes or just breaking rules and hoping not to get caught.


In many cases, I found that when colleagues said "we didn't change anything" they mean "we didn't change anything relevant" which winds up meaning "we didn't change anything we think could be relevant to this issue" and then "whoops, turns out it was relevant after all".


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