One of the movie that inspired a lot US army is 'la bataille d'Algiers'. For a reason very few understand, what was an historic defeat of France in a colonial war was considered a military success for fighting against terrorism by USA. Of course, you fight your own citizens.
Don't ask.
It basically said that torture was ok, and that your own citizens / any civilians can be considered your ennemies and treated as such. Abou grahib, Condor operation (chili, argentina...) for getting rid of "commies" in south america used nice french para technics.
Like pushing opponents in the ocean from an helicopter far from the coast so that body might not be discovered recognizable. Sleep depravation, gégéne, waterboarding, having muslim naked and possibly being ordered by woman ... A lot of actual technics used in Guantanamo.
Hey, don't look at me this way. I do not support this. At the opposite of USA, war stopped because soldiers revolted against these "successful" technic. And their was a strong opposition between the "conscripted" and the engaged soldiers.
Call french cowards. At least they did oppose their own government and army and accepted (ok, De gaulle took the liberty to choose) to lose war rather than to win with torture. Which triggered another civil war in the metropole between the tenants of keeping colonies and the others not really for tortures. And of course, CIA did its best to put even more mess in the process. (Gladio operation).
Maybe looking like cowards is not the worse that can happen to a nation and as you see french people are still alive.
Maybe they don't look like a great nation, but loosing on the moral battle has proven to be a great way to destroy your own civilization.
At least that is the topic of the peloponesian wars that is a mandatory lecture for westpoint cadets.
Don't ask.
It basically said that torture was ok, and that your own citizens / any civilians can be considered your ennemies and treated as such. Abou grahib, Condor operation (chili, argentina...) for getting rid of "commies" in south america used nice french para technics.
Like pushing opponents in the ocean from an helicopter far from the coast so that body might not be discovered recognizable. Sleep depravation, gégéne, waterboarding, having muslim naked and possibly being ordered by woman ... A lot of actual technics used in Guantanamo.
Hey, don't look at me this way. I do not support this. At the opposite of USA, war stopped because soldiers revolted against these "successful" technic. And their was a strong opposition between the "conscripted" and the engaged soldiers.
Call french cowards. At least they did oppose their own government and army and accepted (ok, De gaulle took the liberty to choose) to lose war rather than to win with torture. Which triggered another civil war in the metropole between the tenants of keeping colonies and the others not really for tortures. And of course, CIA did its best to put even more mess in the process. (Gladio operation).
Maybe looking like cowards is not the worse that can happen to a nation and as you see french people are still alive.
Maybe they don't look like a great nation, but loosing on the moral battle has proven to be a great way to destroy your own civilization.
At least that is the topic of the peloponesian wars that is a mandatory lecture for westpoint cadets.
Guess, we did not read the same book.