You don't start a post by earnestly attempting to foment violent revolution, and end it by saying "don't be evil."

If you had ever looked into what tends to happen in a violent revolution, you would have found that due process is not a significant part of it, and the end result is often a dictatorship, theocracy, etc.

There is no reason to suppose that the lawless violence you advocate will ultimately result in any improvement, for anyone except 'the party' which wins the revolution.

Perhaps I was unclear or ambiguous.

I only mentioned it first to underscore how unreasonable and detestable it is - that is, not an option at all.

The ONLY reasonable option, given the facts, is to leave.

Where, may I ask, did you flee to?

Germany, according to his profile.

Fleeing the US to Europe to escape restrictions on civil liberties... Head = asplode.

The US is a lot more free on paper, but has very little liberty in practice.

Germany is, in theory, a lot less free - however I have never been anywhere else that allows many of the sorts of things that are commonplace here.

I could go into many details but suffice it to say there is an interesting inverse symmetry to be found.

One handy example: asking a bank for €5000 in cash doesn't even raise an eyebrow here.

My only experience of interacting with law enforcement in Germany is having my bags searched in a drug enforcement sweep on a train.

After 20 minutes of reading, I'm even more convinced of what my intuition said earlier this morning: the civil rights situation throughout large portions of Europe is much worse than it is in the US. Compare the first N articles of the Basic Law for the Federal Republic to the Bill of Rights. Then read about the "sect filters" the German government(!) drafted to enable employers to deny jobs to people in a disfavored religion.

* The US is a lot more free on paper, but has very little liberty in practice.

Germany is, in theory, a lot less free - however I have never been anywhere else that allows many of the sorts of things that are commonplace here.*

I have a similar understanding of China, based on several limited visits and conversations with extended family and friends there. They've got a lot of restriction in theory, but in practice, as long as you leave the oligarchy alone, they keep to themselves and ignore you.

That comparison is fanciful! Germany has the rule of law and its liberty (or lack thereof) is nothing like China's.

Given your comments about starting a violent revolution I guess it's not too surprising you moved to the one country that tried twice in the last 100 years to take over the world.

I was under the impression that Germany already fucked up once, so who would know better than they why it's wrong to be a police state?

I think is that the current government is less than 100 years old and hasn't had time to become evil and comtrolling yet.

If being a police state was enough to educate people why being a police state is bad, America wouldn't have this problem. :)

- or -

- Educate the voting public and bring them to your side

With what uncontrolled mass media? The window for this has closed.

The internet?