And why you are sitting around ycombinator trashing php and talking about which stack is superior, I've gotten loads done with it.

You can write awful code with php or you can write great code with php or something in-between, it's up to the developer.

The fact that you go so out of your way to trash php going to the lengths to question "why lamp is treated as a first class citizen", actually just goes to show your own utter dependency on development environment and existing code base.

So if there is crappy code out there, suddenly you become incapable of writing good code? No, so why sit around on sites and trash a programming language that the final product completely depends on the skill level of the person writing it.

You touch php and all you write is shit code? Maybe you are just shitty at programming? You don't "have" to use ruby or python to write clean, well thought out code. Please get off your high horse and understand that people get shit done using the lamp stack, and give it a rest.

Do you berate any other programmer anytime you see them writing perl as well? You are not superior to anyone because of the technology stack you use.

edit: how about you downvoters, actually come up with a coherent response and tell me why I'm wrong instead of treating this site like reddit and downvoting what you don't understand.

eddit2: I've noticed you have a nice github repo, which includes https://github.com/radiosilence/Ham All of your code looks clean and very decent, I'm just pointing out that php is obviously a good enough language for you to waste your own time developing in it!